Complex POF spot after leading flop in 3bet pot

  • Complex POF spot after leading flop in 3bet pot

     Funnybunny H updated 1 month, 4 weeks ago 2 Members · 3 Posts
  • Funnybunny H

    November 21, 2021 at 4:27 pm


    I played this hand yesterday, and I am kinda lost, how we play after we lead the flop, because the trainer doesn’t have further street solutions for paired boards. Can someone with a solver give some insight how the GTO line goes after the flop?

    I assume we check a lot on this specific turn because our opponent is still uncapped (solver doesn’t raise any of the made hands on the flop, only some trips), especially with this hand. But how does the flop caller react, how do we react vs lead?

    I really find these spots interesting, but it’s hard to understand the thought process behind the 1/3 lead, without at least turn solution added into the trainer.

  • Luuk

    November 22, 2021 at 9:47 am

    HI @funnybunny-h

    You are right that IP is somewhat uncapped in the strongest hands, but we as OOP still have more strong hands on the turn here.

    – OOP has More boats (15% vs 6.5%)

    – OOP has more flushes (36% vs 29%)

    – OOP has more trips ( 16% vs 9%)

    – IP has more Nut Flushes (18% vs 14%)

    So overall OOP has a advantage here both in equity and in polarity. Therefore OOP can double barrel aggressively here (77%) when using a small 33% size. I also would have thought this to be lower, but the solver is very clear here.

    Your opponent should make the call on the flop, but its VERY close here. As he has the Ah he is blocking your draws and therefore doesnt do as well vs lead. Without the BDFD his hand would be a fold.

    On the turn, as played his hand is mixing between checking and betting turn and shoving river when called. Most AA+Ah!hh are betting river with a pair blocker to the board.

    BTW I used a J88 flop.

    We definitely aim to have turns for this added to the trainer in the future as well!


    • This reply was modified 1 month, 4 weeks ago by  Luuk.
    • Funnybunny H

      November 22, 2021 at 2:28 pm

      Yeah, I assumed the turn sizing is 1/3 if we bet, because solver usually leads 1/3 on turns on these kind of “locked down”/”static” boards, it’s still somewhat hard to grasp what hands go into the barrel line.

      I assumed our specific hand checks to balance some 9x hands, but if the river is a brick for instance and not a 4th heart, I would have no idea what to do with this specific hand for instance, as he generally should not float dry A on the flop even vs a 1/3, because it makes us more likely to have a made hand and not a drawing one. Probably still a call to protect trips in our range?

      Also not sure what sizing our opponent should have on the turn, I assume solver would opt for 1/3 in his shoes as well?

      Thanks for the input anyway, really looking forward to these being added to the solver. Recent changes are great in the Trainer btw ๐Ÿ™‚

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